2025 Grand Tour Q&A

[Yzr]

Thanks for your questions:

The rules state what else is required besides a photo: "A list of establishment locations is required. Include in the name of each photo, what the town the
establishment is in; city first, state/province second, the name of the establishment, and your rally number last. Example: Countryside, IL, Sally’s Diner, Rider 803." This will preclude the need for a street address or gps location.

If something is obvious, then, well...it is obvious without signage.

A beer sign would work if it was obvious it was at a qualifying location and not a quick mart or gas station, etc.

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Willie:

This is actually a very good and interesting question. It caused me to look up the definition of both franchise and chain. I learned something new today. Thank you. The intent was to exclude franchises and chains. I did not know that there was a difference as it related to ownership structure. Had I known, I would have included both in the instructions. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

All would qualify. Note DownUnder's post as they are all "old".

Yes, separate is helpful if not legible.

Dealer is a location.

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BkerChuck:

My understanding is that an American Legion post is a local chapter of The American Legion, a veterans service organization. I would assume that such a place could be a meeting hall and nothing else. So, unless it is obviously outfitted to be a qualifying location (serving food/drink), just having such a sign in front of it would not make it qualifying. As it relates to VFW Halls, my understanding is that the difference between the VFW and the American Legions is that the American Legion generally accepts Veterans of the US Military no matter where they served. The VFW however, only accepts Veterans of the US Military who served overseas in a combat zone or received hostile fire pay. So, as it relates to VFW Halls, the same obviously outfitted application would be required to qualify.

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JohnF:

Thanks for your page. Unfortunately, this semester I agreed to teach night classes twice a week. Because of that, I have to turn the pink pager off until I get home. Thanks for your understanding on my late night response.

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Yes, if they are electric / motorized per the rules - first page, first paragraph. I could have been clearer and stated "bicycle" instead of "bike". But, yes, they are included if they are motorized or electrified as are also trikes, sidecars, slingshots, etc.

I completely realize that people could rack there electric bikes on their cars and take pics and gather chips with their bikes without riding there from home. However, I also have seen people trailer their bike to Sturgis, stop 25 miles out of town and ride in. In addition, I've seen people rent motorcycles out of town after flying in from across the country to grab points or locations for a GT or other competition. If you go through that amount of trouble, you deserve to attend Sturgis with your motorcycle and deserve the point for your troubles racking your bike. It is the memories and bragging rights that are important here. We are not the GT police looking for cheats. RMs catch cheats all the time in competitions. If you get caught, well of course the points won't count. But, those that tend to do are never serious competitors looking to win a rally or competition and are separated by far by those that do.

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239 - I should have added a response to your second Q. We also have the option of sending in a USB. If you can't send in a USB as a second option, email me and we can discuss.